Legislature(2001 - 2002)

01/25/2001 08:07 AM House CRA

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HB 13 - SERVICE AREAS:VOTER APPROVAL/TAX ZONES                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MEYER announced  that the first order  of business would                                                               
be SPONSOR SUBSTITUTE FOR HOUSE BILL  NO. 13, "An Act relating to                                                               
municipal service areas  and providing for voter  approval of the                                                               
formation, alteration, or abolishment of certain service areas."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 0183                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CON BUNDE, Alaska  State Legislature, testified as                                                               
the sponsor  of SSHB 13.   Representative Bunde referred  to SSHB
13 as  a "good  government" bill  as it gives  more power  to the                                                               
people.    He  explained  that   SSHB  13  would  not  allow  the                                                               
elimination or  alteration of  a limited  road service  area, and                                                               
one case of fire service areas,  without a majority vote of those                                                               
affected.   Under current law, 90  percent of the residents  of a                                                               
city could  gerrymander a  small road  service out  of existence.                                                               
Such  a situation  does not  seem fair.   This  legislation would                                                               
require  a   majority  vote  of   both  entities   affected,  the                                                               
surrounding community  and the community  that would  be altered.                                                               
Representative  Bunde explained  that, basically,  an area  would                                                               
elect a representative who would  contract with the public sector                                                               
for  limited road  maintenance  such as  snow  plowing and  basic                                                               
grading of  unimproved roads.   The area would assess  itself for                                                               
the  cost   of  this  service   and  the  assessing   group,  the                                                               
municipality  that holds  the election,  would receive  a service                                                               
fee.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 0411                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE  said [SSHB 13]  is local government  at its                                                               
most basic form.   He noted that  there is the desire  to be able                                                               
to change  these limited road  service areas in order  to achieve                                                               
economy in  administration.   Such is the  case in  the Fairbanks                                                               
area.  He  pointed out that SSHB 13 also  allows for differential                                                               
taxation rates.  Under current  law, these areas couldn't combine                                                               
and  have   differential  taxation.     He  explained   that  the                                                               
differential taxation may be desired  because some areas may want                                                               
to maintain their roads at a  higher level, while other areas may                                                               
not wish to  have improvements and thus would assess  the area at                                                               
a different  rate.  He  pointed out that  a majority vote  of all                                                               
involved   entities  would   be  required   in  order   for  this                                                               
differential tax rate to occur.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 0550                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE predicted that  testimony would suggest that                                                               
the  local  assembly  should  determine  this  rather  than  [the                                                               
individual].   He said that the  will of the people  shouldn't be                                                               
feared but rather encouraged.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HALCRO  asked  if   SSHB  13  differed  from  the                                                               
legislation that Representative Bunde introduced two years ago.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE stated that SSHB  13 differs slightly.  Last                                                               
year's legislation  did not include  those in the  Mat-Su Valley,                                                               
while SSHB 13 would include the Mat-Su Valley.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 0709                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO  turned to  Governor Knowles'  veto message                                                               
for SCS CSHB  133(CRA) am S, which alludes  to concerns regarding                                                               
the constitutionality of SSHB 13.   He asked if Legislative Legal                                                               
Services has reviewed that possibility.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUNDE replied  yes.    He said  that  one of  the                                                               
concerns is  that SSHB 13  would create a new  government entity.                                                               
However, it  does not because  a limited  road service area  is a                                                               
portion  of  an  existing  local government.    He  informed  the                                                               
committee that the  Alaska Supreme Court holds  the position that                                                               
this legislation  would not create more  local government because                                                               
limited road service areas aren't independent government units.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 0787                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GUESS  asked if  a community  could choose  not to                                                               
have basic  services, which  the surrounding  areas would  end up                                                               
paying.   She identified the  basic services as  fire, ambulance,                                                               
or police.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE clarified  that SSHB 13 is  limited to local                                                               
road service, except  for the portion of the bill  that refers to                                                               
the Eagle River Volunteer Fire  Department.  Representative Bunde                                                               
acknowledged that,  in the  past, there was  a concern  about the                                                               
police  service  in his  district.    This legislation  does  not                                                               
address police service.  The  police service issue was settled by                                                               
the Alaska Supreme Court.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KERTTULA  inquired as  to what the  Alaska Supreme                                                               
Court said regarding the police service issue.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUNDE explained  that the  Anchorage Borough  and                                                               
City  combined  and developed  a  charter,  which specified  that                                                               
existing service areas  outside the city limits  would be allowed                                                               
to continue.   He said, "One of those existing  service areas was                                                               
this police  service issue and  the [Alaska] Supreme  Court said,                                                               
in layman's  terms, ... that  the charter was subservient  to the                                                               
greater  need  and  they  said  that  the  services  that  people                                                               
received, as far as police  protection, were great enough that it                                                               
just basically aggregated that portion of the charter."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0966                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUNDE  requested  that the  tax  differential  be                                                               
explained.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE  indicated that  the tax  differential would                                                               
mainly apply in the Fairbanks  area, which has 117 different road                                                               
service  areas.   That many  different  road service  areas is  a                                                               
large administrative burden and many  of these road service areas                                                               
would like  to combine in  order to have only  one administrator.                                                               
He  noted that  these road  service areas  have vastly  different                                                               
levels of  service.  He  posed an  example in which  two entities                                                               
could decide to combine.  In  such a case, the greater area would                                                               
also  get to  vote and  thus with  a majority  vote of  all three                                                               
parties, the two road service areas  could combine.  Once the two                                                               
combine, the  two road  service areas  could have  different mill                                                               
rates and maintain  that existing mill rate because  of the level                                                               
of service that  is maintained.  However, the  existing law would                                                               
require the  two combining entities  to choose either  the higher                                                               
or the lower mill rate, not both.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KERTTULA said that is of concern to her.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1079                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HALCRO  explained that  when  the  city tried  to                                                               
impose police  protection on  the Hillside in  1996, part  of the                                                               
argument was that  [those on the Hillside]  benefited from police                                                               
protection.     It  was  also  argued   that  Hillside  residents                                                               
basically  live in  town because  [Anchorage] had  grown and  the                                                               
area was no longer as it  was during the consolidation when 3,000                                                               
people lived  on the Hillside.   Representative Halcro  said that                                                               
he didn't  understand that  argument because,  historically, some                                                               
segments of  the Hillside had  voted to accept  police protection                                                               
on  their own  free  will.   He  returned  to  the argument  that                                                               
Hillside  residents  benefited  from the  police  protection  and                                                               
pointed out  that when the  State Troopers couldn't respond  to a                                                               
call  from  the Hillside  then  the  Anchorage Police  Department                                                               
would  respond.   Therefore,  although  [the Hillside  residents]                                                               
weren't  paying  for  that  police  service,  they  received  it.                                                               
However, he  indicated that SSHB  13 is  a little different.   He                                                               
asked  if there  is a  chance  that a  Municipality of  Anchorage                                                               
(MOA) plow would  plow a street [in a road  service area], if the                                                               
private contractor didn't plow.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUNDE  replied  no.   In  regard  to  the  police                                                               
protection issue on the Hillside,  Representative Bunde said that                                                               
residents  of  the  Hillside  and   other  areas  were  assessing                                                               
themselves  and paying  for police  protection.   However,  those                                                               
areas viewed  the area  as rural and  preferred having  the State                                                               
Troopers.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUNDE  returned  to  SSHB  13  and  limited  road                                                               
service areas.   He said that  if the contractor to  plow snow in                                                               
his area doesn't provide service one  day, then he has to wait or                                                               
the [road  service area] has  to hire  someone new.    Therefore,                                                               
the limited  road service area's  ability to hire someone  new is                                                               
valued by the residents of the area.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 1301                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI directed attention  to the last sentence                                                               
of Section  3(c), which refers  to the exception applied  to fire                                                               
protection service.   She asked  if fire areas are  being treated                                                               
differently than road areas.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE replied  yes.  He said that  fire service is                                                               
different than road  service and he didn't intend for  an area to                                                               
have an election every time a new house is built.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI related her  understanding that fire and                                                               
road   service  could   be   provided   by  different   entities.                                                               
Therefore, she  understood Representative  Bunde to mean  that he                                                               
didn't want there to have to  be two separate elections, if there                                                               
are  changes to  the road  area as  well as  the fire  protection                                                               
area.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE replied yes and  noted that [SSHB 13] speaks                                                               
to  fire  service  areas  that   are  served  by  volunteer  fire                                                               
departments.   He  informed the  committee that  there must  be a                                                               
substantive change  in order to  expand or change a  fire service                                                               
area.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 1476                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI  related her  understanding that  a spur                                                               
to a  subdivision that is outside  a road service area  would not                                                               
qualify  for this  exemption,  even when  the  [expansion of  the                                                               
service  area] is  less than  six  percent or  the population  is                                                               
under 60,000.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE responded yes.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MURKOWSKI referred  to a  letter from  the Alaska                                                               
Municipal  League  (AML),  which  is included  in  the  committee                                                               
packet.    The  letter  seems   to  imply  that  there  could  be                                                               
substantial  local costs  in  creating a  new  form of  election.                                                               
Therefore, she  requested that Representative Bunde  speak to the                                                               
cost of an election.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   BUNDE  said   that   he   didn't  believe   that                                                               
implication is accurate because these  elections would be held at                                                               
the  next   scheduled  municipal   election.    In   response  to                                                               
Representative  Murkowski, he  indicated agreement  that an  area                                                               
would  operate  as it  had  been  until the  regularly  scheduled                                                               
election.   These issues do  not require immediate  attention and                                                               
can wait until the next election.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 1603                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JEFF  BUSH,  Deputy  Commissioner,   Department  of  Community  &                                                               
Economic Development,  informed the committee that  the [Knowles]                                                               
Administration  strongly opposes  SSHB 13  for many  of the  same                                                               
reasons identified in the governor's  veto message last year.  He                                                               
said  that  Governor  [Knowles]   has  legal  and  constitutional                                                               
concerns with  this legislation.  More  importantly, the governor                                                               
feels that  SSHB 13 is a  bad government bill because  it hinders                                                               
the ability  of local home  rule boroughs  to operate.   Mr. Bush                                                               
explained that Alaska's  system of government was  designed so as                                                               
to maximize  the authority and  ability of home rule  boroughs to                                                               
exercise  power.   However,  SSHB 13  limits  that authority  and                                                               
ability, which is  counter to Article X, Section 1  of the Alaska                                                               
Constitution.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUSH pointed out that,  generally, the supreme court does not                                                               
view  service  areas  as  government units.    However,  SSHB  13                                                               
establishes  service areas  as something  close  to a  government                                                               
unit and thus takes away authority  from the borough and gives it                                                               
to the  local service area  unit.  Furthermore,  this legislation                                                               
would foster inefficiency in local government activities.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1752                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUSH turned  to the exemption for second  class boroughs with                                                               
a  population  of under  60,000.    With  respect to  the  Mat-Su                                                               
Borough,  there are  conflicting population  counts.   Therefore,                                                               
this  legislation may  or may  not apply  to the  Mat-Su Borough.                                                               
Mr. Bush  said that, as far  as [the department] can  tell, there                                                               
is no  rational basis for a  decision to place this  exemption in                                                               
the  bill.   He  indicated  that  this exemption  would  actually                                                               
empower  small second  class boroughs  with  more authority  than                                                               
home  rule  boroughs,  which is  contrary  to  the  constitution.                                                               
Therefore, there are legal and philosophical concerns.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HALCRO  inquired  as  to  what  limitations  this                                                               
legislation would  place on home  rule boroughs.  He  related his                                                               
understanding that  SSHB 13  only stops  home rule  boroughs from                                                               
eliminating road  service areas without  a vote of the  people in                                                               
those road service areas.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUSH said  that SSHB 13 would stop [home  rule boroughs] from                                                               
combining [road service areas] without local elections.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HALCRO  related  his understanding  that  a  road                                                               
service  area could  make changes  with  a majority  of the  vote                                                               
within a  service area.   In  regard to  Mr. Bush's  comment that                                                               
SSHB  13   would  create  inefficiency  for   local  governments,                                                               
Representative  Halcro  was  not  convinced  that  limiting  road                                                               
service areas causes inefficiencies.   Representative Halcro said                                                               
he believes that  road service areas are far  more efficient than                                                               
the  city  having to  worry  about  street maintenance  in  those                                                               
[service] areas.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUSH commented that SSHB  13 prevents the borough from making                                                               
such decisions based upon what  is most efficient for the borough                                                               
as a whole.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 1983                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KERTTULA remarked that  different tax levels seems                                                               
confusing  and thus  she requested  further  clarification.   She                                                               
went on  to ask if  Mr. Bush knew of  any other example  in which                                                               
one unit of government has a different tax level than another.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUSH deferred to Mr. Bockhorst.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DAN BOCKHORST,  Local Boundary Commission, Division  of Community                                                               
and  Business Development,  Department  of  Community &  Economic                                                               
Development,  testified   via  teleconference.     Mr.  Bockhorst                                                               
explained that  presently, differential  tax zones only  exist in                                                               
city governments.   He was  not aware of  a situation in  which a                                                               
road service area had a differential tax zone.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KERTTULA asked if  Mr. Bockhorst meant that within                                                               
a municipal area  there could be areas that  have different taxes                                                               
for the same service.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.   BOCKHORST   stated   that  current   statutes   allow   for                                                               
differential tax  zones in order  to reflect different  levels of                                                               
services and thus it would not  be the same level of service with                                                               
a  different tax.   He  noted  the potential  for confusion  with                                                               
existing  service areas  that could  have differential  tax zones                                                               
within a service area.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KERTTULA   said  she  believes  there   would  be                                                               
potential constitutional problems as well.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOCKHORST deferred to Bill  Greene, Attorney, Municipality of                                                               
Anchorage.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 2103                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL GREENE,  Attorney, Municipality  of Anchorage  Department of                                                               
Law, testified via  teleconference.  Mr. Greene  pointed out that                                                               
the differential tax  zones within a service  area was considered                                                               
in 1975 when  the Borough and the City of  Anchorage were unified                                                               
into one local government.   He explained that [this differential                                                               
tax zone]  would allow  one street  in a service  area to  have a                                                               
different  tax than  another  street in  the  same service  area,                                                               
which  creates   a  complex  administration.     Furthermore,  he                                                               
indicated possible problems with  the constitutional provision to                                                               
minimize the numbers of local taxing jurisdictions.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO  inquired as  to how  this would  relate to                                                               
the existing mill rate structure in  Anchorage.  He noted that in                                                               
his taxing  district he  pays a different  mill rate  for certain                                                               
services than  those in the  downtown taxing district.   He asked                                                               
how that would compare to a limited road service area.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREENE  stated that he  would speak about Anchorage  since he                                                               
has the  most knowledge  there.  He  informed the  committee that                                                               
service areas are  provided for in the  state constitution, which                                                               
further states  that the goal  is to  limit the number  of taxing                                                               
jurisdictions.   In Anchorage, a level  of service is taxed  at a                                                               
uniform rate  throughout the service  area.   Anchorage's charter                                                               
requires  that the  rate of  taxation  within a  service area  be                                                               
uniform in  order that everyone  similarly situated pay  the same                                                               
rate.  However, that rate only  applies to the service area.  For                                                               
areawide services, those services are  required to have a uniform                                                               
rate.   Therefore,  within a  service  area or  for a  particular                                                               
level of service the taxation rates are uniform.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 2273                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO  related his understanding that  Mr. Greene                                                               
is concerned that within a  limited road service area, the people                                                               
on  one street  could be  forced to  pay a  higher tax  rate than                                                               
those on another street.  He asked if that is the concern.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GREENE  replied  yes.    He pointed  out  that  the  current                                                               
structure of SSHB 13 is such that  a service area could be cut up                                                               
into a number of differential tax  zones.  Therefore, one side of                                                               
a street  could have  one mill  levy and  the other  side another                                                               
mill levy.   There was extensive discussion about  such a concept                                                               
at the time of the municipal charter in 1975.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HALCRO asked  if  Mr. Greene's  concern would  be                                                               
addressed  if SSHB  13 were  amended to  ensure uniform  taxation                                                               
throughout the limited road service area.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREENE replied yes.   In response to Representative Kerttula,                                                               
Mr.   Greene  agreed   that  different   mill   rates  within   a                                                               
municipality  occur   because  different  areas   have  different                                                               
services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE remarked that  the notion that service areas                                                               
would  have  block by  block  taxation  [under  SSHB 13]  is  not                                                               
accurate.   This  legislation  allows  consolidation of  existing                                                               
service areas  for the purposes of  administration.  Furthermore,                                                               
such  a change  would require  a majority  vote of  all involved,                                                               
which  would  include those  within  the  service areas  and  the                                                               
surrounding area.   Representative Bunde noted  his confidence in                                                               
the people not breaking this down  to house by house taxation due                                                               
to the majority vote requirement.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 2427                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO  informed the  committee of a  situation in                                                               
his district  in which there  was a  large cul-de-sac that  had a                                                               
sink hole in  the middle of the  street.  If the  majority of the                                                               
area  votes  for  the  improvements, then  even  those  who  vote                                                               
against  the improvement  would  have to  pay.   Therefore,  even                                                               
those who vote against the  improvement would agree that they are                                                               
part of "democracy in action."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GREENE said  he  believes  Representative Halcro's  question                                                               
points to  how assessment  districts operate  as opposed  to road                                                               
service  areas.    In  regard  to  a  capital  improvement  to  a                                                               
particular  road, Anchorage,  as  do  other municipalities,  does                                                               
that by  an assessment district,  which would not be  impacted by                                                               
SSHB 13.  He noted that  the present bill gives the assembly, not                                                               
the voters, the power to  create differential tax zones within an                                                               
existing service area.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO  remarked that  his previous  statement was                                                               
to simply make  a comparison.  He said that  he was attempting to                                                               
address Mr.  Greene's concerns  regarding the  different taxation                                                               
levels and  ensure that  everything is fair  for everyone  in the                                                               
limited road service area.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 2565                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREENE  clarified that  he was merely  pointing out  that the                                                               
present bill  would not  allow voters to  vote on  a differential                                                               
tax  zone  within a  service  area  because  the voters  are  not                                                               
mentioned in that provision, Section  4, of the bill.  Therefore,                                                               
SSHB  13  allows  further balkanization  and  fracturing  of  the                                                               
taxing jurisdiction  within the municipality, which  could easily                                                               
create  inequalities  in  taxation   as  well  as  administrative                                                               
problems.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KERTTULA  related her  understanding that  a large                                                               
service area would have to agree  with a smaller service area who                                                               
wishes to combine  with it.  However, at some  point "they" could                                                               
go to the assembly to  switch the taxes, although they previously                                                               
agreed on those taxes.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUNDE   said  that  [Mr.  Greene]   seems  to  be                                                               
presenting  two different  arguments.    However,  Representative                                                               
Bunde believes  there are  checks and balances.   In  response to                                                               
Representative  Kerttula, Representative  Bunde agreed  that both                                                               
service areas would have to agree to combine.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 2666                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREENE began his testimony and  noted that this is the fourth                                                               
time in three  years that the concepts presented in  SSHB 13 have                                                               
been before this committee.   [The Municipality of Anchorage] has                                                               
presented its  legal views in  1998 on HB 365  and SB 208  and in                                                               
2000 on HB 133.  Mr.  Greene said, "Like its predecessors, [SS]HB
13 strikes and substantially erodes,  we believe, the fundamental                                                               
nature  of a  unique,  farsighted, and  effective  form of  local                                                               
government.  That form of  local government has served this state                                                               
and its citizens  very well for over 40 years."   He informed the                                                               
committee that  SSHB 13  is the 60th  proposed limitation  on the                                                               
home rule powers  that were intended to be  liberal and expansive                                                               
per the state  constitution.  This is a system  that was put into                                                               
place  by the  voters of  this state,  voters who  reside in  the                                                               
local  municipalities as  well as  service  areas throughout  the                                                               
state.  This legislation appears to  have a lack of confidence in                                                               
the wisdom, judgment, and ability  of local governments to govern                                                               
themselves for their own benefit.   He reiterated his belief that                                                               
SSHB 13  substantially erodes  and impairs  the unique  system of                                                               
local  government  provided  for  in  Article  X  of  the  Alaska                                                               
Constitution.  Furthermore, this  legislation raises [concern] as                                                               
to whether  SSHB 13  is local and  special legislation,  which is                                                               
prohibited by the Alaska Constitution.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREENE pointed  out that SSHB 13 is not  limited to affecting                                                               
limited  road service  areas.   He  explained  that limited  road                                                               
service areas,  which make up  a large portion of  Anchorage, are                                                               
limited in  two ways.   Firstly, limited  road service  areas are                                                               
limited to  three years in  duration, after which voters  vote on                                                               
whether to  continue the  limited road  service area.   Secondly,                                                               
limited road  service areas  are limited in  the type  of service                                                               
the area  is authorized to  provide.  Limited road  service areas                                                               
are  authorized  to  provide  minimal   road  service  areas  for                                                               
maintenance.   However, SSHB  13 is not  limited to  limited road                                                               
service areas as  it also includes general service  areas such as                                                               
the   Anchorage  roads   and  drainage   service  area   and  the                                                               
Chugach/Birchwood/Eagle   River   rural    road   service   area.                                                               
Furthermore, SSHB 13 is not  limited to the Eagle River volunteer                                                               
fire department service  area but rather applies  to fire service                                                               
areas generally.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 2845                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREENE  noted that SSHB 13  does not cover home  rule cities,                                                               
other  than  unified  municipalities, and  exempts  second  class                                                               
boroughs with  a population under  60,000.  The  legislation only                                                               
covers  road  and fire  service  areas  rather than  all  service                                                               
areas.   Furthermore, this legislation  exempts a six  percent of                                                               
the  increase in  a fire  service  area.   Mr. Greene  reiterated                                                               
earlier comments regarding  the belief that SSHB  13 violates the                                                               
constitutional   provision    preventing   local    and   special                                                               
legislation, which was  noted in the governor's  veto message for                                                               
HB  133  from  last  year.   He  also  reiterated  that  SSHB  13                                                               
substantially  increases the  limitations  on  home rule  powers,                                                               
which is contrary to the provisions of the state constitution.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREENE noted  that Anchorage has a tax cap,  which limits the                                                               
total amount  of taxes  that may  be levied.   He  explained that                                                               
within that calculation,  taxes levied within a  service area are                                                               
included.   He said,  "To the extent  that service  areas control                                                               
their individual  level of taxation,  they limit or  diminish the                                                               
level  of taxation  for  the remainder  of  the municipality  and                                                               
other  service  areas  as  well as  areawide."    Therefore,  the                                                               
assembly's  authority   to  allocate  municipal   assets  amongst                                                               
competing  needs throughout  the  municipality is  limited.   Mr.                                                               
Greene pointed  out that  there is  much legislative  history and                                                               
commentary  [on this  issue], not  only  from the  Constitutional                                                               
Convention's  original article  on  local  governments, but  also                                                               
from commentary  by Vic Fischer, Chairman,  Alaska Constitutional                                                               
Convention's Committee on Local Government.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GREENE  quoted  the  following from  the  "Final  Report  on                                                               
Borough Government":                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Service  areas will  be under  the jurisdiction  of the                                                                    
     borough assembly.   The borough assembly  may establish                                                                    
     adversary  or  administrative  agencies  to  a  service                                                                    
     area.     The  levying   of  taxes,   budgetary  review                                                                    
     authority and  the allocation of  funds will  rest with                                                                    
     the  borough governing  body.    Thus, a  "single-wide"                                                                    
     agency will be responsible  for fiscal matters and will                                                                    
     ensure balanced taxation for the entire area.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREENE quoted the following portion of the "Final Report on                                                                 
Borough Government":                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Article  X,  Section  11  of  the  Alaska  Constitution                                                                    
     allows  municipal  governments  to take  on  home  rule                                                                    
     status  broader than  those  of any  other  state.   It                                                                    
     being the intent of the constitutional delegate...                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 01-4, SIDE B                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREENE remarked  that prior testimony by  the then Department                                                               
of Community  & Regional  Affairs and  the current  Department of                                                               
Community &  Economic Development  all lend credence  and support                                                               
to the  proposition that  SSHB 13  severely restricts  local home                                                               
rule authority  and the  authority of  voters to  determine their                                                               
own  destiny  within  the  context   of  Alaska's  efficient  and                                                               
effective local government.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 2955                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HALCRO asked  Mr.  Greene to  expand his  remarks                                                               
regarding how  service areas limit  the ability of  the assembly,                                                               
with regard to taxation.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GREENE explained  that the  calculation for  the tax  cap in                                                               
Anchorage  includes  the  taxes  levied  in  all  service  areas.                                                               
Therefore,  the taxation  level  of a  service  area impacts  the                                                               
level of  taxation that can be  levied in other service  areas or                                                               
in the  municipality, areawide, for services  under the following                                                               
year's budget.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO  related his understanding of  Mr. Greene's                                                               
argument that since  service areas can negotiate  the service for                                                               
a lower  price and thus  tax those  within the service  area less                                                               
for the  service, their  contribution to  the city  is less.   In                                                               
other words,  because the service  area is not taxing  its people                                                               
enough the  assembly is limited  in its ability to  determine the                                                               
taxation level.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREENE  clarified that when  local government  is considered,                                                               
it must be viewed as a portion  of the whole.  He reiterated that                                                               
the level  of taxation in a  service area is directly  related to                                                               
calculations regarding the limit  of taxation permitted under the                                                               
municipal  charter;  in  Anchorage's   case,  for  the  level  of                                                               
taxation  throughout the  municipality.   He  said,  "So, it's  a                                                               
matter of allocating  assets amongst competing needs  and that is                                                               
traditionally,  and by  our state  constitution, reserved  to the                                                               
assembly."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HALCRO assumed  that  within a  service area  the                                                               
level of taxation  is commensurate with the cost  of the service.                                                               
For example, an  individual in a limited road  service area would                                                               
be taxed as much  as it would cost to maintain  the roads in that                                                               
individual's limited road service area.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREENE agreed that would be the case.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HALCRO  said, then,  he  was  not sure  how  that                                                               
negatively impacted  the assembly.   Therefore, he  surmised [the                                                               
problem] to be  that those in the limited service  area would not                                                               
be taxed enough to support the rest of the city.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 2775                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GREENE  clarified that  he  is  merely  saying that  in  the                                                               
consideration  of  how  to  allocate  the  resources  within  the                                                               
municipality,  the  tax  in  the  service  area  is  one  of  the                                                               
components.   Therefore, the  extent to  which SSHB  13 restricts                                                               
the  assembly from  allocating  resources  according to  areawide                                                               
needs, the  bill would impair  the assembly's ability  to balance                                                               
the needs of competing interests.   In response to Representative                                                               
Halcro,  Mr.  GREENE  defined  competing  interests  as  all  the                                                               
government services that compete for the local tax dollar.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO pointed  out that there is  a separate mill                                                               
rate for fire and police service.   Therefore, an individual in a                                                               
limited road  service area would  still pay for fire  and police,                                                               
areawide parks and  recreation, schools, et cetera.   The limited                                                               
road service  area would just  pay what the limited  road service                                                               
area contractor costs.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GREENE  reiterated that  when  the  assembly determines  the                                                               
priorities that  should be addressed  when allocating  funds, the                                                               
assembly  must  consider  the  taxes  levied  for  schools,  fire                                                               
service, roads,  parks and recreation,  and limited  road service                                                               
areas.    He  restated,  "To  the extent  that  the  assembly  is                                                               
restricted or limited in any way  in determining at what level to                                                               
provide  those  services,  they   are,  by  nature,  limiting  or                                                               
increasing services in another area within the tax cap."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 2637                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KERTTULA  posed a situation  in which there  was a                                                               
mill rate  of ten and  the service  area decided to  increase its                                                               
services,  which  resulted in  a  mill  rate  of three  [for  the                                                               
service area],  then the city would  only be able to  have a mill                                                               
rate of seven for those in this particular service area.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GREENE  said  that   Representative  Kerttula's  concept  is                                                               
correct.   If  a  [service area]  is taxed  at  the maximum  levy                                                               
requested by the members of  that service area and, for instance,                                                               
it is  an increase  of three  mills for a  given year,  then [the                                                               
municipality] would have to calculate  that increased three mills                                                               
into the  tax cap.   Therefore, if  [the municipality] is  at the                                                               
tax cap,  [the tax] would  have come  from some other  service in                                                               
order to stay underneath the tax cap.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GUESS inquired as to  how SSHB 13 would change the                                                               
current practice and place more limitations on the assembly.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GREENE answered  that  SSHB  13 limits  the  ability of  the                                                               
majority of voters  in a given area.   He noted that  this is not                                                               
just a  consolidation of existing  service areas because  SSHB 13                                                               
would prohibit the alteration of  an existing service area unless                                                               
the alteration is  approved by people living  outside the service                                                               
area, who are impacted by the alteration.  Mr. Greene said:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     What the bill would do is  to limit the ability of both                                                                    
     the voters  on the  one hand, and  the assembly  in the                                                                    
     areas of  consolidation to make  more efficient  use of                                                                    
     the  service  areas,  either  in  consolidation  or  in                                                                    
     expansion unless  they have the approval  of a minority                                                                    
     of voters.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUNDE remarked  that  the notion  that a  limited                                                               
service area would  increase its taxes in order  to eliminate the                                                               
municipality's ability  to tax to  the tax  cap is a  stretch for                                                               
him.  Most  limited road service areas have lower  mill rates and                                                               
that is one of the reasons  these limited road service areas want                                                               
to maintain a limited road service area.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE stated his  belief that municipalities would                                                               
like to  have power  over local  road service  areas in  order to                                                               
convert  them  to "cash  cows."    Therefore, the  municipalities                                                               
could force the elimination of  the limited road service area and                                                               
force  people   to  pay   a  higher  mill   rate  and   thus  the                                                               
municipalities   can  use   the   money  where   it  feels   most                                                               
appropriate.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 2405                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MERLE JANTZ  testified via  teleconference.   Mr. Jantz  spoke in                                                               
favor of  SSHB 13 and  rejected the notion that  local government                                                               
is more  important than the  people.  He  noted that he  has been                                                               
involved in his road service area  for over 20 years and has been                                                               
a  road service  area commissioner.   He  informed the  committee                                                               
that his  road service  area has  about six-tenths  of a  mile of                                                               
road  with an  assessed  evaluation  of about  $1.2  million.   A                                                               
couple of  years ago,  an adjoining  area wished  to have  a road                                                               
service  area.   The Fairbanks  North Star  Borough policy  is to                                                               
adjoin two  existing areas.  He  explained that the new  area had                                                               
1.7 miles  of road with an  assessed evaluation of $400,000.   In                                                               
such a case  three-quarters of the revenue would  be generated in                                                               
the original  road service area and  two-thirds to three-quarters                                                               
would  be   used  to  support   roads  in  the   adjoining  area.                                                               
Furthermore,  the  roads  in  the adjoining  area  were  in  poor                                                               
condition and thus that area wanted  a road service area in order                                                               
to improve the  roads.  Mr. Jantz related his  belief that such a                                                               
situation is  taxation without  representation because  there was                                                               
not an opportunity to vote.   If SSHB 13 passes, then there would                                                               
have been a vote.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. JANTZ  informed the committee that  he has been the  chair of                                                               
an ad  hoc committee that has  addressed this issue for  the past                                                               
two to three  years.  This ad  hoc committee has yet  to find any                                                               
individual in the [Fairbanks North  Star] road service areas that                                                               
want  to  change  their  service  or the  level  at  which  those                                                               
decisions are made.  Mr. Jantz  said that he has not found anyone                                                               
who can  tell him the  administrative advantages to  reducing the                                                               
number  of service  areas.   In most  cases, when  the number  of                                                               
service areas  are reduced,  the voluntary  labor is  reduced and                                                               
[becomes]  paid  labor.   The  aforementioned  situation  is  not                                                               
positive.    However,  work  is still  being  done  to  determine                                                               
whether  [consolidation]   can  be   accomplished.     Mr.  Jantz                                                               
concluded by noting  the importance of allowing  everyone to vote                                                               
and allowing different  mill levies, which would  allow review of                                                               
ways to combine  road service areas and improve  those roads that                                                               
need such, while allowing different levels of service.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 2179                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RANDY FRANK,  Chairman, Viewpointe  Service Area  [in Fairbanks],                                                               
testified via teleconference.  He  informed the committee that he                                                               
has  been involved  with  this  issue for  about  18  years.   In                                                               
response  to some  of Mr.  Greene's earlier  comments, Mr.  Frank                                                               
said that  [the Viewpointe] service  area taxes itself  more than                                                               
the  service  area  spends  on  maintenance  costs  in  order  to                                                               
establish  a  fund  to  pay   for  future  capital  improvements.                                                               
Furthermore, Mr.  Frank remarked that the  Fairbanks road service                                                               
areas have better service than  the City of Fairbanks because the                                                               
road service areas use private  contractors, who must respond and                                                               
complete  the job  within 24  hours of  the call  to service  the                                                               
roads.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. FRANK  said that in  the past  couple of years  the Fairbanks                                                               
North  Star  Borough has  been  trying  to merge  service  areas.                                                               
However,  he  didn't  know  if  such  a  consolidation  would  be                                                               
possible because  each service  area has  a different  tax level.                                                               
Therefore, a vote of all  merging service areas would be required                                                               
in order to  establish one taxation level.   Such a consolidation                                                               
would result in  the consolidation of service  areas with various                                                               
levels of roads, some paved and  some unpaved.  He predicted that                                                               
consolidation would be problematic  unless SSHB 13 passes because                                                               
SSHB 13 would allow differing levels of taxation.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FRANK noted  that he  wrote Representative  Bunde a  letter,                                                               
which is  included in the bill  packet.  He echoed  comments from                                                               
that letter regarding America's  wealth redistribution.  He noted                                                               
that the  wealthy have always been  able to vote in  the process.                                                               
However, in  the current situation,  a service area that  will be                                                               
joined by a new  service area does not have the  right to vote in                                                               
the process.   Mr. Frank said that such a  situation is very "un-                                                               
American" and should not be allowed to continue.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1945                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL  GATTI,  Attorney, Matanuska-Susitna  Borough,  testified                                                               
via  teleconference.    He  informed the  committee  that  he  is                                                               
present on behalf  of the borough administration,  who is opposed                                                               
to SSHB  13.  The  borough administration  is opposed to  SSHB 13                                                               
for many  of the reasons  expressed by  Mr. Greene and  Mr. Bush.                                                               
In the  borough's opinion, SSHB  13 eliminates local  control and                                                               
raises constitutional  issues pertaining  to maximum  local self-                                                               
government  with minimum  local government  units.   Furthermore,                                                               
[this bill] would impact the  supreme court decisions in the HALO                                                             
(Area  G   Home  and   Landowners  Organization,   Inc.(HALO)  v.                                                             
Anchorage)  case, the  Hillside police  protection case,  and the                                                             
North Kenai  case.  In the  North Kenai case, the  Alaska Supreme                                                           
Court   said  that   the  consolidation   of  service   areas  is                                                               
permissible without a vote of the people.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. GATTI  noted that  the Mat-Su  Valley is  one of  the fastest                                                               
growing  boroughs in  the  state.   Traditionally,  the issue  of                                                               
service areas  is one that  has been  within the province  of the                                                               
local assembly  and administered  through the local  road service                                                               
area advisory  boards, who have  a substantial voice  with regard                                                               
to what  takes place with  those road  service areas.   Mr. Gatti                                                               
indicated that  the [Mat-Su] assembly  is very responsive  to the                                                               
concerns of the local road service area boards.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 1845                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. GATTI  said, "This bill  is really a regressive  bill because                                                               
it takes away  from the liberal construction  of municipal powers                                                               
and places you back in a  situation that occurred years and years                                                               
ago  and  still  occurs  in some  municipalities  throughout  the                                                               
state;  that's  based  on  the  principle  under  a  case  called                                                               
Dillon(ph)."   Under Dillon(ph), the rule  is that municipalities                                                           
cannot do anything  unless the legislature says so.   However, in                                                               
Alaska  the system  is that  municipalities can  do anything  not                                                               
prohibited  by  law.   In  the  Mat-Su  Borough, a  second  class                                                               
borough, there  are a  few more  restrictions.   However, service                                                               
areas are important  and the question regarding the  need for new                                                               
service areas will  be debated by the Mat-Su  Borough Assembly in                                                               
the future.   If SSHB 13 is passed, the  legislative authority of                                                               
the borough assembly  could be limited.  He pointed  out that the                                                               
legislature  often  gets  into arguments  with  the  governor  in                                                               
regard to  executive versus legislative authority.   He indicated                                                               
the need  for the committee  to carefully consider  the principle                                                               
that local  control requires local  assemblies to  make decisions                                                               
on local issues.   Furthermore, SSHB 13 requires  a dual majority                                                               
vote  and would,  in some  cases, allow  the minority  to control                                                               
what the majority really wants.   He pointed out that in America,                                                               
the majority rules.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. GATTI  noted that Jim  Swing, Director, Mat-Su  Public Works,                                                               
is  present  and could  address  the  practical consequences  his                                                               
department  may suffer  if  SSHB 16  passes.   In  regard to  the                                                               
differential   taxation,  Mr.   Gatti  said   he  believes   that                                                               
Representative   Kerttula's  concern   is   well  taken   because                                                               
differential  taxation  within a  service  area  would pose  some                                                               
substantial administrative  problems.  He informed  the committee                                                               
of two  Alaska Supreme Court  cases that dealt  with differential                                                               
taxation of  oil and gas  property; one case involved  Valdez and                                                               
the other  case involved Kenai.   In  both of those  cases, under                                                               
the  facts of  those cases,  the Alaska  Supreme Court  said that                                                               
differential  taxation is  unconstitutional  due to  its lack  of                                                               
uniformity  in  regard  to  the   taxation  on  property.      He                                                               
acknowledged  that  cities  do  have  differential  taxation  for                                                               
various  services as  they are  merely large  service areas.   He                                                               
pointed  out that  service areas  in  the Mat-Su  Valley do  have                                                               
differential  taxation rates  based upon  the recommendations  on                                                               
the road service  area supervisors.  He doubted  that the borough                                                               
assembly would  disagree very often  with the  recommendations of                                                               
those  supervisors   regarding  the   rate  of  taxation   for  a                                                               
particular service area.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1603                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. GATTI turned  to the issues of  consolidation and abolishment                                                               
of road service  areas.  Once the assembly has  acquired a power,                                                               
it  is up  to  the  local government  to  determine  how best  to                                                               
administer that  power.   If there should  be a  consolidation of                                                               
service areas that provide basically  the same level of services,                                                               
that  should be  accomplished  by ordinance  rather than  through                                                               
artificial  prohibitions.   This  [belief  is  supported] by  the                                                               
constitution  and Title  29  as  well as  case  law, Liberati  v.                                                             
Bristol  Bay Borough(ph).   In  conclusion, Mr.  Gatti reiterated                                                             
that  the Mat-Su  Administration  disagrees with  SSHB  13.   The                                                               
entire  state  shouldn't  be  impacted  by a  bill  for  a  local                                                               
concern, which should be debated on the local level.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 1488                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
OCIE ADAMS  testified via teleconference  in support of  SSHB 13.                                                               
He was depressed  by the fact that the local  government could so                                                               
easily rationalize  why it  is important to  express the  will of                                                               
the people.   He remarked that  the people where he  lives [Knik]                                                               
are "definitely  interested in seeing  this bill supported."   He                                                               
hoped  that  the  Mat-Su  Borough   would  be  included  in  this                                                               
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1400                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JIM  SWING, Director,  Public  Works, Matanuska-Susitna  Borough,                                                               
testified via teleconference.  Mr.  Swing echoed earlier comments                                                               
regarding the  Mat-Su Borough  being one  of the  fastest growing                                                               
areas in the  state.  Much of  the land in the  Mat-Su Borough is                                                               
being  subdivided extensively.   He  could foresee  a subdivision                                                               
being proposed  that would  extend across  road service  areas or                                                               
even  extend  inside and  outside  of  road  service areas.    He                                                               
pointed  out  that  there  are   already  requirements  for  road                                                               
construction in  subdivisions.   Therefore, a  vote of  an entire                                                               
service  area seems  to  be burdensome  and  serves no  practical                                                               
purpose.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. SWING  informed the committee  that when driving  from Palmer                                                               
to Wasilla,  one drives through  three road service  areas, which                                                               
have roads  that are practically  in the same condition  and with                                                               
the  same mill  levies.   He  related his  belief that  combining                                                               
those three service areas should be left up to the assembly.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1215                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  LETTOW, Supervisor,  Road  Service Area,  Matanuska-Susitna                                                               
Borough, testified via  teleconference.  Mr. Lettow  said that he                                                               
believes   that  local   service   areas   provide  the   maximum                                                               
flexibility  for   individuals  to  choose  what   lifestyles  to                                                               
participate in and  fund.  He pointed out that  not everyone that                                                               
moves  into  the  Mat-Su  Valley  does  so  for  curbs,  gutters,                                                               
sidewalks, and  street lights.   Some people  move to  the Mat-Su                                                               
Valley for the  absence of those features.   Mr. Lettow indicated                                                               
that consolidation  of road service  areas could result  in areas                                                               
of  lower  assessed  property  values, who  may  prefer  to  have                                                               
ditches  and   darkness,  having  their   monetary  contributions                                                               
[taxes]  be used  to  put in  curbs and  street  lights in  other                                                               
areas.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LETTOW turned  to  the issue  of  differential taxation  and                                                               
referred  to  Section  4(b).   He  informed  the  committee  that                                                               
[differential taxation  for different level of  services] already                                                               
occurs due  to areas that  may be  required to have  public water                                                               
and sewer  when subdivided.   When that occurs, an  assessment is                                                               
made and  incorporated and would  result in a different  level of                                                               
assessment for  those services in  individual subdivisions.   Mr.                                                               
Lettow  indicated   that  the   aforementioned  situation   is  a                                                               
necessary remedy so  that owners in those  locations actually pay                                                               
for those improvements  rather than spreading the  cost to others                                                               
who do not benefit from those improvements.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. LETTOW  noted his support  of SSHB 13, although  Section 3(d)                                                               
would seemingly impact  the Mat-Su Borough.   He acknowledged the                                                               
difficulty  in  putting  things  to a  vote  and  suggested  that                                                               
possibly there  is a remedy  between SSHB 13 and  the encumbrance                                                               
stated by Mr. Swing.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 0883                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JULIE KRAFFT, Director, Member  Services, Alaska Municipal League                                                               
(AML), noted  that the committee  should have a letter  from AML,                                                               
which states  its opposition  to SSHB  13.   She also  noted that                                                               
this issue  has been discussed  with AML's members  several times                                                               
and thus a  policy position has been established  and is included                                                               
in the  committee packet.  The  bottom line for AML  is that this                                                               
is  a  local control  issue.    She  said that  issues  regarding                                                               
service areas  should be resolved  at the local level  and should                                                               
not be  a statewide mandate.   She pointed  out that the  10 mill                                                               
tax cap election, a "one size fits all" solution does not work.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO said that  he understood AML's concern that                                                               
this should remain  a local issue.  However, the  folks that live                                                               
within these  local road  service areas are  locals, who  want to                                                               
retain  local control.    Representative  Halcro emphasized  that                                                               
[SSHB 13]  protects the  locals that live  within the  local road                                                               
service  area.   He pointed  out, "It's  not as  if the  state is                                                               
going  to step  in and  be  in charge  of the  operations of  the                                                               
limited road service  area.  We're simply saying,  the folks that                                                               
live in these areas ought to have local control."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. KRAFFT  echoed earlier comments  regarding the fact  that the                                                               
municipal government,  as set out  in the constitution,  is given                                                               
the authority to  run the government.   She  indicated that local                                                               
government  officials, who  have been  elected to  be responsible                                                               
for  the borough  as a  whole, aren't  able to  live up  to those                                                               
responsibilities  [under  SSHB  13]  because  a  small  group  is                                                               
allowed  to   prevent  a  possible  consolidation   that  may  be                                                               
appropriate for the government as a whole.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MEYER turned  to the teleconference list  and found that                                                               
Mr. Bockhorst,  Local Boundary Commission, Division  of Community                                                               
and  Business Development,  Department  of  Community &  Economic                                                               
Development, and Mr. Poland, Director,  Division of Community and                                                               
Business   Development,  Department   of  Community   &  Economic                                                               
Development,  were available  to offer  information or  technical                                                               
assistance.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 0551                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MURKOWSKI  agreed  that  there seem  to  be  some                                                               
constitutional  issues.   From  Representative Bunde's  comments,                                                               
Representative Murkowski understood that  a legal opinion on some                                                               
of these  constitutional issues has been  requested; however, she                                                               
has  not  seen  it.    Furthermore, she  noticed  that  the  next                                                               
committee  of  referral   for  SSHB  13  is   the  House  Finance                                                               
Committee.  Therefore,  she felt that it is  not the jurisdiction                                                               
of the House  Community & Regional Affairs  Standing Committee to                                                               
resolve legal issues  and thus she asked  if Representative Bunde                                                               
would object  to having SSHB  13 referred to the  House Judiciary                                                               
Standing Committee.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUNDE  informed  the  committee  that  Tam  Cook,                                                               
Director,   Legislative  Legal   Services,  Legislative   Affairs                                                               
Agency,  has  provided information  [to  the  effect] that  these                                                               
constitutional concerns  are not  germane.   Representative Bunde                                                               
reminded the  committee that this  legislation was passed  by the                                                               
legislature  last  year.   He  questioned  some of  the  comments                                                               
embodied in  the governor's veto  message.   Representative Bunde                                                               
assured the committee that he  would request that these questions                                                               
be addressed in  the House Finance Committee.   Furthermore, this                                                               
legislation went through Legislative  Drafting and Legal, both of                                                               
which did not find a constitutional problem.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 0227                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MURKOWSKI asked  if Representative  Bunde had  an                                                               
opinion  from Ms.  Cook  that  he would  be  willing to  release.                                                               
[Representative  Bunde  indicated  that  an  opinion  is  in  the                                                               
works.]                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MEYER  asked if Representative Murkowski  wanted to hold                                                               
SSHB 13 until she has reviewed the [opinion] from Ms. Cook.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MURKOWSKI  answered  that  she  would  feel  more                                                               
comfortable  seeing  that  opinion  or  talking  with  Ms.  Cook.                                                               
Although she  appreciated Representative  Bunde's offer  to bring                                                               
these  concerns  to  the  House  Finance  Committee,  she  didn't                                                               
believe that [constitutional issues]  fall under the jurisdiction                                                               
of the House Finance Committee either.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MEYER  asked if Representative  Bunde could  provide the                                                               
committee with an opinion from Ms. Cook by the next meeting                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE agreed to  obtain written communication from                                                               
Ms. Cook, if the committee wishes.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 01-5, SIDE A                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MEYER announced that SSHB  13 would be on next Tuesday's                                                               
agenda.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0040                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUNDE began  his closing  remarks by  saying that                                                               
SSHB 13 basically protects the  status quo.  Representative Bunde                                                               
noted that although the local  government officials are not evil,                                                               
their job is  made easier with more  power.  He said,  "This is a                                                               
bill about  the tyranny of  the majority."   Representative Bunde                                                               
then turned to the issue of  home rule cities and noted that home                                                               
rule cities have 53 limitations.   With regard to the notion that                                                               
this  is  merely  a  Hillside  issue,  it  is  not  because  good                                                               
government and local control is a statewide issue.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE pointed out that  the definition of the term                                                               
"local control"  has varied throughout  the testimony.   From one                                                               
point of view, local control is  the power of the assembly.  From                                                               
another  point  of  view,  local control  refers  to  [the  local                                                               
residents].    Representative  Bunde   noted  that  although  the                                                               
argument that  [an area]  is not  paying its  fair share  did not                                                               
come  up, [it  is not  appropriate] because  if the  neighborhood                                                               
maintains its  roads and the  state maintains its roads,  then it                                                               
will be a quid pro  quo situation.  In conclusion, Representative                                                               
Bunde said that one shouldn't fear  the voters.  He remarked that                                                               
the government's  job is  to allow people  the greatest  input in                                                               
the process.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 0367                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MURKOWSKI returned the  legal opinion and remarked                                                               
that if  it is easier,  Ms. Cook could  merely be present  at the                                                               
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MEYER requested Ms. Cook's  presence at the next hearing                                                               
on SSHB 13.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KERTTULA expressed interest  in Ms. Cook's opinion                                                               
addressing  the executive  versus  the  legislative functions  of                                                               
municipalities.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 0450                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO  remarked that this  a very fine line.   He                                                               
noted  that his  district  has a  number of  people  that are  on                                                               
septic  and well  systems.   Due to  [Anchorage's] expansion  the                                                               
city has placed a water line down  one of the main streets in his                                                               
district.  Currently,  the majority of the citizens  in that area                                                               
have to  vote in favor  of hooking up  to the [city's]  water and                                                               
sewer.   Representative Halcro said  that he didn't want  to have                                                               
the city impose  hooking up to city water and  sewer on those who                                                               
don't wish to hook up to it.   He informed the committee that the                                                               
Municipality  of Anchorage's  Citizen  Budget  Book, which  says,                                                               
"The  Municipality of  Anchorage  operates under  a service  area                                                               
concept whereby taxpayers in different  areas or taxing districts                                                               
of the  municipality pay property  taxes only for  those services                                                               
which are either required by law  or which they vote to receive."                                                               
Therefore,  he  surmised  that the  municipality  [of  Anchorage]                                                               
accepts that it  operates under a service area  concept and [this                                                               
legislation] is merely trying to  protect that.  Furthermore, the                                                               
[Alaska]  Supreme  Court  has  already  ruled  -  on  the  police                                                               
protection issue  - that it was  for the greater good  for police                                                               
protection to be imposed on  the Hillside.  Representative Halcro                                                               
understood that ruling in regard to police and fire protection.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HALCRO  turned  to Mr.  Greene's  testimony  that                                                               
[SSHB  13] could  limit  the local  assembly's  ability to  raise                                                               
taxes.   Representative Halcro  did not  agree with  Mr. Greene's                                                               
testimony.   Furthermore,  he said  that the  people in  the road                                                               
service  areas pay  a commensurate  [tax]  for school  districts,                                                               
areawide  mill  rate, and  police  [protection].   Therefore,  he                                                               
believes  that self-determination  [by  local  residents] is  the                                                               
ultimate  "local  control."    In regard  to  the  argument  that                                                               
different  taxation  levels  are  unfair,  Representative  Halcro                                                               
pointed  out that  he  pays the  same tax  for  roads as  someone                                                               
living  in  downtown  Anchorage; however,  Representative  Halcro                                                               
lives on  a gravel  road.   In conclusion,  Representative Halcro                                                               
felt that [SSHB 13] protects the status quo and is important.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 0832                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MEYER  announced that public  testimony would  be closed                                                               
and SSHB 13 would be heard at the next meeting.                                                                                 

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